Comments on: Are you losing Aggro in 9 Seconds? http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/ A guide to tanking as a warrior in world of warcraft Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:58:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Phantomdrone http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-3695 Phantomdrone Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:46:20 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-3695 letting them die is the only way to teach all the meter whores how to play and the other thing is how many of you guys are asked to DPS the adds off the second boss in heroic MgT is it me or do tanks NOT DPS why the hell are DPSers so damn lazy i just dont know and from one of the top post if you pull aggro on purpose then /agreed that DPS is dead will make it without him and if he keeps doing boot him how hard is it to get a DPS for anything keep the tank and healer happy they are the heart and mind of the group letting them die is the only way to teach all the meter whores how to play
and the other thing is how many of you guys are asked to DPS the adds off the second boss in heroic MgT is it me or do tanks NOT DPS why the hell are DPSers so damn lazy i just dont know and from one of the top post if you pull aggro on purpose then /agreed that DPS is dead will make it without him and if he keeps doing boot him how hard is it to get a DPS for anything keep the tank and healer happy they are the heart and mind of the group

]]> By: meme http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-3681 meme Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:44:37 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-3681 Me i never taunt them again, the mob will come back after the agressor hes been delt with :D We have great tools to look at your agroo and if you choose to ignore... well, like balak says, it your repair bill Me i never taunt them again, the mob will come back after the agressor hes been delt with :D

We have great tools to look at your agroo and if you choose to ignore… well, like balak says, it your repair bill

]]> By: Hydrix http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1983 Hydrix Fri, 09 May 2008 02:27:37 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1983 That's not just your server. That’s not just your server.

]]> By: Hao http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1979 Hao Thu, 08 May 2008 19:52:33 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1979 The new rage in 5mans in my server are pally tanks. Multiple target taunt, consecrate, block to increase threat(holy shield i think). The new rage in 5mans in my server are pally tanks. Multiple target taunt, consecrate, block to increase threat(holy shield i think).

]]> By: Steve the Tank http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1978 Steve the Tank Thu, 08 May 2008 17:11:03 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1978 Why not create a macro that is like "/rw Begin DPS now". So after you SS you just hit the macro and continue your aggro chain. Or do you think that would be too intrusive. 5 mans it works well for me. I'm also usually party leader. I'm still a newb tank as well only lvl 33, but I thought I would throw the idea out there. Why not create a macro that is like “/rw Begin DPS now”. So after you SS you just hit the macro and continue your aggro chain. Or do you think that would be too intrusive. 5 mans it works well for me. I’m also usually party leader. I’m still a newb tank as well only lvl 33, but I thought I would throw the idea out there.

]]> By: Wakoo of Alonsus PvE EU http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1945 Wakoo of Alonsus PvE EU Wed, 07 May 2008 09:14:15 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-1945 Before I begin five mans, I usually post up my marking macros (I usually go with the same class layout). I also post up a macro clearing stating that the DPS must give me some seconds to gain threat, especially since sometimes - I will dodge/parry the first few hits, therefore not allowing me to get that shield slam in. Then I find myself, 30 minutes later reminding them again, give me seconds or you will die - no doubt. I do have improved taunt, it comes in extremely handy since I'm currently only tanking heroics/Karazhan. Maybe when I move on to full time 25 mans, where the raid members are likely to be experienced in the mechanics of threat then those two points in improved threat could be better spent but for now - I'm not dropping it. Before I begin five mans, I usually post up my marking macros (I usually go with the same class layout). I also post up a macro clearing stating that the DPS must give me some seconds to gain threat, especially since sometimes - I will dodge/parry the first few hits, therefore not allowing me to get that shield slam in. Then I find myself, 30 minutes later reminding them again, give me seconds or you will die - no doubt.

I do have improved taunt, it comes in extremely handy since I’m currently only tanking heroics/Karazhan. Maybe when I move on to full time 25 mans, where the raid members are likely to be experienced in the mechanics of threat then those two points in improved threat could be better spent but for now - I’m not dropping it.

]]> By: Irghen http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-953 Irghen Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:20:23 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-953 I just have to say that my life would be boring if I didn't have to run around like a raving mad cow, trying to save rotting cadavers in pajamas from dying after hurling a ball of fire the size of texas on an angry mob. I just have to say that my life would be boring if I didn’t have to run around like a raving mad cow, trying to save rotting cadavers in pajamas from dying after hurling a ball of fire the size of texas on an angry mob.

]]> By: Khail http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-802 Khail Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:59:49 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-802 Actually taunt is very useful in MH Since I've started MH with my guild I thinked to put back those 2 points in improved taunt. In the confusion of the waves fight a mob that point a mage/lock/spriest can happend, and improved taunt helps you to save one life (since if you don't stop that mob your team-mate will be one-shotted, and this always happend in the "magical" 9th second of normal taunt! ^^). cheers Actually taunt is very useful in MH
Since I’ve started MH with my guild I thinked to put back those 2 points in improved taunt.

In the confusion of the waves fight a mob that point a mage/lock/spriest can happend, and improved taunt helps you to save one life (since if you don’t stop that mob your team-mate will be one-shotted, and this always happend in the “magical” 9th second of normal taunt! ^^).

cheers

]]> By: Peegee http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-800 Peegee Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:52:10 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-800 Taunt is typically used when one loses aggro, under the presumption dps will stop / slow down so you can catch up. It *can* be used pre-emptively. I typically use it on the last 30% with mob in trash (it will be active by the next pull) if I think I might lose it. The purpose is to make the run as smooth as possible. Sure I can let the mob go and it will die on its way to the mage, but it doesn't have to happen. Taunt is typically used when one loses aggro, under the presumption dps will stop / slow down so you can catch up.

It *can* be used pre-emptively. I typically use it on the last 30% with mob in trash (it will be active by the next pull) if I think I might lose it.

The purpose is to make the run as smooth as possible. Sure I can let the mob go and it will die on its way to the mage, but it doesn’t have to happen.

]]> By: Speidel http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-486 Speidel Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:35:27 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/09/05/are-you-losing-aggro-in-9-seconds/#comment-486 Briga, my post was mostly a joke. The last time I legitimately pulled aggro off of Vene was Nightbane (we're in SSC now). Now, heroics are a different thing. Pulling aggro on a heroic mob isn't the end of the world. And like 90% of the time, I kill the mob before it even reaches me. Part of being a good tank is knowing when NOT to taunt. If I peel off a mob at 20%, let the damn thing go. So you try to teach your DPSers to hold back? Have fun on Gruul, VR, Mag, and so on... If you purposely save taunts for healers and adds, then your DPSers must hate you and your runs take forever. Hell, let's say I reach 100% of your threat, then crit for 6k. Pressing that taunt button = instant 6k more threat. When I'm tanking, and I see someone fly over me in threat, I'll taunt even if I still have aggro. Your arguements Briga are just like how a rogue QQs after losing a duel. "I didn't use my cooldowns because I don't need to." If you're going to purposely withold taunts, have fun tanking my seduce target. Briga, my post was mostly a joke. The last time I legitimately pulled aggro off of Vene was Nightbane (we’re in SSC now).

Now, heroics are a different thing. Pulling aggro on a heroic mob isn’t the end of the world. And like 90% of the time, I kill the mob before it even reaches me. Part of being a good tank is knowing when NOT to taunt. If I peel off a mob at 20%, let the damn thing go.

So you try to teach your DPSers to hold back? Have fun on Gruul, VR, Mag, and so on… If you purposely save taunts for healers and adds, then your DPSers must hate you and your runs take forever.

Hell, let’s say I reach 100% of your threat, then crit for 6k. Pressing that taunt button = instant 6k more threat. When I’m tanking, and I see someone fly over me in threat, I’ll taunt even if I still have aggro.

Your arguements Briga are just like how a rogue QQs after losing a duel. “I didn’t use my cooldowns because I don’t need to.” If you’re going to purposely withold taunts, have fun tanking my seduce target.

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