Comments on: Stop waiting to use Thunderclap http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/ A guide to tanking as a warrior in world of warcraft Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:54:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Shivan http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-2561 Shivan Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:30:06 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-2561 That is actually something that I have wondered about for a while. I made some on an alt and sent the to my main and loved them but just never think about doing it. Never see them at the AH and wondered if other tanks use them. That is actually something that I have wondered about for a while. I made some on an alt and sent the to my main and loved them but just never think about doing it. Never see them at the AH and wondered if other tanks use them.

]]> By: Goodmann http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-1940 Goodmann Wed, 07 May 2008 02:41:05 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-1940 On this topic i usually also tell CCers to CC out of my kill zone, and just tank what ever i can if they dont understand what it is. another thing i like to do is if i can and im noticing the Ccer being lazy at CCing fast i do shoot pull and run to meet the mobs and TC, then i back out again with the rest of the grp since at that time the CC should be secure there. but i try to let the CCer start there CCing just as i shoot, so that just as my shot hits the CC is done this ofc would be in the case of having a mage doing sheep when i have a mage and rogue i like to shoot ASAP when rogue does his sapp, and try to have mt mages awake enough to sheep with me...mostly it dont happen so i do the first tactic to get the sheep somewhwere else On this topic i usually also tell CCers to CC out of my kill zone, and just tank what ever i can if they dont understand what it is.
another thing i like to do is if i can and im noticing the Ccer being lazy at CCing fast i do shoot pull and run to meet the mobs and TC, then i back out again with the rest of the grp since at that time the CC should be secure there. but i try to let the CCer start there CCing just as i shoot, so that just as my shot hits the CC is done this ofc would be in the case of having a mage doing sheep when i have a mage and rogue i like to shoot ASAP when rogue does his sapp, and try to have mt mages awake enough to sheep with me…mostly it dont happen so i do the first tactic to get the sheep somewhwere else

]]> By: Enjee http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-1256 Enjee Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:21:37 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-1256 At some reactions here: 'Wand and sheep seems too difficult for some players though' Indeed it's very difficult. I play endgame human tank and a endgame belf mage, I can assure you that (for example) pulling with a wand is not a good idea in most of the heroic. Mages in PvE gear hardly top 8k HP, which those mobs hit. 1 resist is party wipe. Sheeping sooner is an option tho.. but as tank i experience it easiest to just move backwards after CC or onto another good clear spot. At some reactions here:

‘Wand and sheep seems too difficult for some players though’

Indeed it’s very difficult. I play endgame human tank and a endgame belf mage, I can assure you that (for example) pulling with a wand is not a good idea in most of the heroic. Mages in PvE gear hardly top 8k HP, which those mobs hit. 1 resist is party wipe.

Sheeping sooner is an option tho.. but as tank i experience it easiest to just move backwards after CC or onto another good clear spot.

]]> By: admin http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-764 admin Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:11:05 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-764 Here ya go Cimm /script SetCVar("TargetNearestDistance", 10) /targetenemy [harm,nodead] /script SetCVar("TargetNearestDistance", 41) I haven't used it to be honest, but I've read a lot about tanks swearing by it. Likely you just need to bind it to your Tab key and give it a whirl. Here ya go Cimm

/script SetCVar(”TargetNearestDistance”, 10)
/targetenemy [harm,nodead]
/script SetCVar(”TargetNearestDistance”, 41)

I haven’t used it to be honest, but I’ve read a lot about tanks swearing by it. Likely you just need to bind it to your Tab key and give it a whirl.

]]> By: Cimm http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-763 Cimm Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:05:58 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-763 This might be slightly off-topic, so I apologize... Tara mentioned tab-targetting, which is really the only way I know how to handle multiple mobs. For the most part, in a moderately confined area with a group of mobs, tab-targetting through the group works well. But there are cases where: (a) the room is somewhat large, and (b) there are multiple groups that are not linked... and tab-targetting through the group in question targets mobs that are half-way across the room. This is a real headache, as it involves further tabbing to eventually settle on the mobs near me that I want to target. This extra tabbing through unwanted, distant mobs eats precious seconds that I could be using to generate threat, rage, and aggro. Is there a way to reduce the "tab distance", so that only proximate mobs are selected when I tab-target? Or is this basically a L2P thing that I need to work on? This might be slightly off-topic, so I apologize…

Tara mentioned tab-targetting, which is really the only way I know how to handle multiple mobs. For the most part, in a moderately confined area with a group of mobs, tab-targetting through the group works well.

But there are cases where: (a) the room is somewhat large, and (b) there are multiple groups that are not linked… and tab-targetting through the group in question targets mobs that are half-way across the room. This is a real headache, as it involves further tabbing to eventually settle on the mobs near me that I want to target. This extra tabbing through unwanted, distant mobs eats precious seconds that I could be using to generate threat, rage, and aggro.

Is there a way to reduce the “tab distance”, so that only proximate mobs are selected when I tab-target? Or is this basically a L2P thing that I need to work on?

]]> By: Djiss http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-491 Djiss Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:42:04 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-491 When I have hunter/mage, I try to always make them pull/cc on their side while I pull on another side, so cc target move out of the group and are often well visible to keep an eye on it, in case they break early. Having CC target well seperated it's just easier to spam TC when needed. When I have hunter/mage, I try to always make them pull/cc on their side while I pull on another side, so cc target move out of the group and are often well visible to keep an eye on it, in case they break early. Having CC target well seperated it’s just easier to spam TC when needed.

]]> By: MidnightRun http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-487 MidnightRun Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:43:12 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-487 The smart people that CC will cast during or straight after the pull. Anything thats at your feet, clap and cleave away. You rather have agro on all then be loosing mob because you were trying to avoid a sheep. If they start QQing tell them you have 100 more important things to worry about then them not being able to CC or reCC. The smart people that CC will cast during or straight after the pull. Anything thats at your feet, clap and cleave away. You rather have agro on all then be loosing mob because you were trying to avoid a sheep. If they start QQing tell them you have 100 more important things to worry about then them not being able to CC or reCC.

]]> By: Tara http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-482 Tara Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:11:30 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-482 Another thing that stinks about slow CC is, TC or no...as a warrior we have to tab-target a lot in order to effectively multi-mob tank. I hate backing a group up that I just pulled and watching my sheep/seduce/shackle-marked target run around in my little pile while I'm hoping the next tab won't target it. Then again...you get pretty good at guessing where your next tab will go that way. :) Besides, like Vene said, I don't necessarily mind having to tank more mobs...that just means more rage for me! ^_^ Another thing that stinks about slow CC is, TC or no…as a warrior we have to tab-target a lot in order to effectively multi-mob tank. I hate backing a group up that I just pulled and watching my sheep/seduce/shackle-marked target run around in my little pile while I’m hoping the next tab won’t target it. Then again…you get pretty good at guessing where your next tab will go that way. :)

Besides, like Vene said, I don’t necessarily mind having to tank more mobs…that just means more rage for me! ^_^

]]> By: Max http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-481 Max Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:25:26 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-481 /agree with all. Dont want your CC broke get it away from where Im tanking. I tell my ppl to watch for when I pop blood rage and be ready 3 seconds later. Had some mages complain about slow casting time etc. Solution to that , cast early or get familiar enough with cast time to know whats safe. They dont have to start casting as soon as you pull, they can wait a bit tooI prefer a late sheep to an early one. I will move my target around to get the best vantage point, give melee room etc. I like to spin my targets so the group has their back and I can see whats going on. That way if I have to intv/inter I can see where im headed and why. /agree with all. Dont want your CC broke get it away from where Im tanking. I tell my ppl to watch for when I pop blood rage and be ready 3 seconds later. Had some mages complain about slow casting time etc.

Solution to that , cast early or get familiar enough with cast time to know whats safe. They dont have to start casting as soon as you pull, they can wait a bit tooI prefer a late sheep to an early one. I will move my target around to get the best vantage point, give melee room etc. I like to spin my targets so the group has their back and I can see whats going on. That way if I have to intv/inter I can see where im headed and why.

]]> By: Talisman http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-479 Talisman Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:18:23 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2007/10/29/stop-waiting-to-use-thunderclap/#comment-479 I remember a hunter's signature I saw on the official forums that went something along the lines of, "There is no badly timed Multi-Shot, only slow CC". Obviously there's less need to use MS than TC, but it does make a similar point, people should stop whinging about their CC getting broken when they put it in line of fire, and I agree completely. When I'm on my hunter if I put my trap at the tank's feet and it got broken I'd consider it my fault. Most people just have no idea what's involved in tanking, simple as that. I remember a hunter’s signature I saw on the official forums that went something along the lines of, “There is no badly timed Multi-Shot, only slow CC”. Obviously there’s less need to use MS than TC, but it does make a similar point, people should stop whinging about their CC getting broken when they put it in line of fire, and I agree completely. When I’m on my hunter if I put my trap at the tank’s feet and it got broken I’d consider it my fault.

Most people just have no idea what’s involved in tanking, simple as that.

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