Comments on: Part 2: Maximizing your Boss Threat http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/ A guide to tanking as a warrior in world of warcraft Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:45:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Bushman http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1369 Bushman Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:52:35 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1369 @Zannin im in MH/BT atm and i usually have a TPS 1k+ depending on how hard the mobs hit. A very good tip is to debuff yourself by not using shield block+TC+demo shout so that the mob will hit harder on you and thereby get more rage so u can use more abilities = more TPS. i have tried using rotations but i dont like it that much since u have to adapt to the situation u are currently in, but i ALWAYS start with SS(if u have the Gnomereagan auto blocker 400 use it at the start of the pull to increase SS dmg). After the SS i pretty much just hit as much as i can, on normal trash i wouldnt recomend HS until u got everything else up and when the mob is at -50% or so, if u are fighting a boss just nuke the HS button, if ur rage gets low stop shield blocking for just a little while if its possible(learn what the boss do and how hard he hits). also, if u got sick dps, start of with a mocking blow so u have a few sec to build aggro. if u want loads of rage, berserker stance -> berserker rage -> def stance, helps loads. @Zannin im in MH/BT atm and i usually have a TPS 1k+ depending on how hard the mobs hit. A very good tip is to debuff yourself by not using shield block+TC+demo shout so that the mob will hit harder on you and thereby get more rage so u can use more abilities = more TPS. i have tried using rotations but i dont like it that much since u have to adapt to the situation u are currently in, but i ALWAYS start with SS(if u have the Gnomereagan auto blocker 400 use it at the start of the pull to increase SS dmg). After the SS i pretty much just hit as much as i can, on normal trash i wouldnt recomend HS until u got everything else up and when the mob is at -50% or so, if u are fighting a boss just nuke the HS button, if ur rage gets low stop shield blocking for just a little while if its possible(learn what the boss do and how hard he hits). also, if u got sick dps, start of with a mocking blow so u have a few sec to build aggro. if u want loads of rage, berserker stance -> berserker rage -> def stance, helps loads.

]]> By: Zannin http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1363 Zannin Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:45:05 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1363 I'm in a Kara/Gruul guild getting set for either Mag or Lurker; we haven't decided yet. I'm only generating 800 TPS typically (according to omen), but for the most part the DPS tends to lag WAY below me. I know that the DPS will fix their issues and start generating more damage, so I need to work on getting to the 1k TPS mark. I use Blazeguard with the Executioner enchant for normal threat generation. I don't have a set rotation per se, I just open a fight with a Bloodrage->SS and then start using whatever ability is up. Should I be waiting to use abilities to try to fit into a SS-> Rev -> Dev -> Dev rotation with HS sprinkled in or just do what I've been doing, which is a great deal more random, but ensures my abilities are on cooldown? I’m in a Kara/Gruul guild getting set for either Mag or Lurker; we haven’t decided yet.

I’m only generating 800 TPS typically (according to omen), but for the most part the DPS tends to lag WAY below me. I know that the DPS will fix their issues and start generating more damage, so I need to work on getting to the 1k TPS mark.

I use Blazeguard with the Executioner enchant for normal threat generation. I don’t have a set rotation per se, I just open a fight with a Bloodrage->SS and then start using whatever ability is up.

Should I be waiting to use abilities to try to fit into a SS-> Rev -> Dev -> Dev rotation with HS sprinkled in or just do what I’ve been doing, which is a great deal more random, but ensures my abilities are on cooldown?

]]> By: Etharialle http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1296 Etharialle Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:55:44 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1296 I recently leveled my warrior to 70 after playing a rogue and then a priest(both holy and shadow). I've tanked all of kara and was able to get in on a few boss fights in 25 mans. I basically use two devastate keys. One is keyed to just devastate and the other is devastate and heroic strike with one key(since HS is not the GCD). When my rage spikes up I start spamming my second key, when it drops below about 40 rage I go back to using the first key. I recently leveled my warrior to 70 after playing a rogue and then a priest(both holy and shadow). I’ve tanked all of kara and was able to get in on a few boss fights in 25 mans. I basically use two devastate keys. One is keyed to just devastate and the other is devastate and heroic strike with one key(since HS is not the GCD). When my rage spikes up I start spamming my second key, when it drops below about 40 rage I go back to using the first key.

]]> By: Hao http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1265 Hao Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:51:58 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1265 gosh my grammar sucked on that one.. "On the tanking strikes, hs and dev hit almost at the same time. Rev followed after the previous 2 causing my threat to shoot up pretty quick according to my Omen threat meter." I tried the combos after the normal order i mentioned previously so that my rage was built up well.. gosh my grammar sucked on that one..

“On the tanking strikes, hs and dev hit almost at the same time. Rev followed after the previous 2 causing my threat to shoot up pretty quick according to my Omen threat meter.”

I tried the combos after the normal order i mentioned previously so that my rage was built up well..

]]> By: Hao http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1264 Hao Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:48:22 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1264 I was trying some hitting orders last night in heroic BF and when i had a lot of rage, i did HS and pressed dev and/or rev as a 2chain or maybe 3chain of hits depending on how much rage i had. HS has this "pause" befor it strikes so i filled the pause up with rev/dev (or maybe TC or some other threat causing strike) depending on how much rage i had. Its kinda analogous to that pause cleave has before it hits and how you can press ww during the pause and have it hit almost like a double combo. it was kinda neat. On the tanking strikes, hs and dev hit almost at the same time rev followed after causing my threat to shoot up pretty quick according to my Omen threat meter. I was trying some hitting orders last night in heroic BF and when i had a lot of rage, i did HS and pressed dev and/or rev as a 2chain or maybe 3chain of hits depending on how much rage i had. HS has this “pause” befor it strikes so i filled the pause up with rev/dev (or maybe TC or some other threat causing strike) depending on how much rage i had. Its kinda analogous to that pause cleave has before it hits and how you can press ww during the pause and have it hit almost like a double combo. it was kinda neat. On the tanking strikes, hs and dev hit almost at the same time rev followed after causing my threat to shoot up pretty quick according to my Omen threat meter.

]]> By: Djiss http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1263 Djiss Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:47:49 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1263 "currently, i go ss=>rev(if it is up)=>dev=>dev=>repeat. If rev is not up and i have a lot of rage, i just use HS to fill in the gap before rev comes up again “currently, i go ss=>rev(if it is up)=>dev=>dev=>repeat. If rev is not up and i have a lot of rage, i just use HS to fill in the gap before rev comes up again

]]> By: Hao http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1259 Hao Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:20:02 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1259 I am also a "button masher" and prolly should get out of that as i learned last night in kara. I hit the right buttons at the right time and it was exactly same tps/threat (duh). Also for the person doing the SF reference, the good players never mashed buttons. (our local arcade had competitions back in the day) currently, i go ss=>rev(if it is up)=>dev=>dev=>repeat. If rev is not up and i have a lot of rage, i just use HS to fill in the gap before rev comes up again... I am also a “button masher” and prolly should get out of that as i learned last night in kara. I hit the right buttons at the right time and it was exactly same tps/threat (duh). Also for the person doing the SF reference, the good players never mashed buttons. (our local arcade had competitions back in the day)

currently, i go ss=>rev(if it is up)=>dev=>dev=>repeat. If rev is not up and i have a lot of rage, i just use HS to fill in the gap before rev comes up again…

]]> By: claudioccm http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1257 claudioccm Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:34:28 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1257 Thanx rochelle. im way down the path to reach SW25. I am just happy with a new 5 man heroic, to run. Thanx rochelle. im way down the path to reach SW25. I am just happy with a new 5 man heroic, to run.

]]> By: Complete http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1255 Complete Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:54:14 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1255 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't someone trying maximize threat go 12/5/44? Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t someone trying maximize threat go 12/5/44?

]]> By: Akilah http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1254 Akilah Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:11:20 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/02/26/part-2-maximizing-your-boss-threat/#comment-1254 Vene - I love that you're doing a series on maximizing boss threat, since that's exactly what I'm focusing on right now. My guild is 4/5 Hyjal and 4/9 BT, with strong healers and DPS that are almost always threat-capped. We've all heard that HS should be added to the tanking rotation only as rage allows. HS is an important tool for threat tanking, however, and should not be considered only a "rage dump." A tank that is trying to maximize threat will make sure that the rage is available to spam HS whenever she can get away with it. I spec 12/0/49 with Imp HS, Anger Mgmt and Imp Bloodrage, and I swear by it. Looking forward to Part 3! Vene - I love that you’re doing a series on maximizing boss threat, since that’s exactly what I’m focusing on right now. My guild is 4/5 Hyjal and 4/9 BT, with strong healers and DPS that are almost always threat-capped.

We’ve all heard that HS should be added to the tanking rotation only as rage allows. HS is an important tool for threat tanking, however, and should not be considered only a “rage dump.” A tank that is trying to maximize threat will make sure that the rage is available to spam HS whenever she can get away with it. I spec 12/0/49 with Imp HS, Anger Mgmt and Imp Bloodrage, and I swear by it. Looking forward to Part 3!

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