The 17/3/41 spec suggested is really not needed, bleeds in 5 mans can cause trouble for CC. If you have chosen your gear correctly and know how to produce good amounts of threat the impale talent really wont make any difference. Remember you have to crit in order for the Deep Wounds & Impale to take effect and your most likely going to have only around %8 crit anyway with 3 pts in Cruelty.

The 11/5/45 spec has too many points in Tactical Mastery, I very really stance dance while I’m tanking as Intervene suits most of my needs. Why would you put points into something that you will use %1 of the time instead of a talent that is useful %99 percent of the time.

Good tanking ability in 5 mans / 10 mans will be more important than a few points here or there so all these specs would be fine most of the time.

Improved Taunt is only useful for a boss when your using 2 tanks to taunt off of each other for threat generation.

Improved Taunt is good for learning 5 mans, but I’d recommend not getting it. I used it for a while when I was learning, but speccing out of it really helped me to learn to use my cooldowns like mocking blow and challenging shout, which I think are TERRIBLY underused by tanks.

If you hit Defense cap without anticipation on the 12/5/44 Build, would you substitue 2 points out of anticipation? And where would those 2 points be better off spent? Maybe Improved Taunt?

Looking for feedback……

As for 5-mans I maximize my Expertise and cap my +Hit switching out for tanking threat pieces and filling 1-2 DPS slots. Hit/Expertise Trinkets being particularly useful *cough* Shard of Contempt *cough*.

Good tanks don’t wear their best gear to 5-mans, and they should always carry their 3 sets of gear (threat, avoidance, dps). I personally *hate* that we have to do this, but it’s the way Blizzard decided we would have to roll, so we adapt to the system. I suppose by putting this kind of limit on tanks, it indirectly limits everyone, making content more challenging and slowing everyone from burning through stuff quicker. I’ll keep hoping for some kind of change, though….or maybe some 40-slot bags to hold everything in.

Like Rochelle said, you can look back on some of vene’s older posts to find information on maintaining the various tanking gear sets.

This guy seems to think that one can work for both. And his stubborness is what upset me the most.

But really, do you not still try to get your hit rating and expertise to at least a reasonable level for 25-man content, even if you are progressing? I would think at least expertise should be maximized so you don’t get parry gibbed.