Comments on: How to Spec for every fight in SSC http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/ A guide to tanking as a warrior in world of warcraft Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Rochelle http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2196 Rochelle Mon, 19 May 2008 17:23:26 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2196 I did a whole post on what I think is the right way to use shield wall - http://www.tankhard.com/2007/12/19/are-you-sure-you-want-to-shield-wall/ I did a whole post on what I think is the right way to use shield wall - http://www.tankhard.com/2007/12/19/are-you-sure-you-want-to-shield-wall/

]]> By: Tankette http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2193 Tankette Mon, 19 May 2008 16:01:20 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2193 I use shield wall during every boss fight if I am MT. If things get out of control I use last stand first and then shield wall if it is still hairy. If everything is smooth, I will hit shield wall when the boss is about 20% or so and then last stand when shield wall expires. I see it as just a little insurance at the end of the fight. I may alter the timing on a specific boss, like Prince in Kara, if I know there will be a certain time peroid of heavy hits. Why not use everything you have during the boss fights since your cool downs will more than likely be up before the next boss? I use shield wall during every boss fight if I am MT. If things get out of control I use last stand first and then shield wall if it is still hairy. If everything is smooth, I will hit shield wall when the boss is about 20% or so and then last stand when shield wall expires. I see it as just a little insurance at the end of the fight. I may alter the timing on a specific boss, like Prince in Kara, if I know there will be a certain time peroid of heavy hits. Why not use everything you have during the boss fights since your cool downs will more than likely be up before the next boss?

]]> By: Zork http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2026 Zork Tue, 13 May 2008 12:14:10 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-2026 Rage is an issue imo. Thus I would always spec improved sunder armor. To get a full rotation with shield slam, revenge, 2x devastate, shieldblock and heroic spam running you would need ~2000 incoming dps (less with windfury totem). 2000 incoming dps is huge and you probably will not see this happening in normal tanking gear. Improved sunder armor is worth 1 rage per second on a full rotation. Focused rage is a no-brainer imo. You need 37 rage for a full rotation which is equal to 6.16rps. Shield block will cost you 2rps. Your white hits will net you ~6rage per hit which will be mostly 3.75rps. To run a full rotation without heroic you need ~484 incoming dps. 6.16rps (rotation) + 2rps (block) - 3.75 rps (white) = 4.41 rps needed (5 * x) / (274.7 * 2) = 4.41 x = 4.41*(274.7 * 2)/5 x = 484 dps income needed Without improved sunder armor you need 594 dps income. Remember: The more rage you have left over, the more rage you can spent on heroic strike. Spamming heroic strike while not being able to hold the standard rotation is not an option. Rage is an issue imo.

Thus I would always spec improved sunder armor. To get a full rotation with shield slam, revenge, 2x devastate, shieldblock and heroic spam running you would need ~2000 incoming dps (less with windfury totem).

2000 incoming dps is huge and you probably will not see this happening in normal tanking gear.

Improved sunder armor is worth 1 rage per second on a full rotation.
Focused rage is a no-brainer imo.

You need 37 rage for a full rotation which is equal to 6.16rps.
Shield block will cost you 2rps.
Your white hits will net you ~6rage per hit which will be mostly 3.75rps.

To run a full rotation without heroic you need ~484 incoming dps.

6.16rps (rotation) + 2rps (block) - 3.75 rps (white) = 4.41 rps needed

(5 * x) / (274.7 * 2) = 4.41
x = 4.41*(274.7 * 2)/5
x = 484 dps income needed

Without improved sunder armor you need 594 dps income.

Remember: The more rage you have left over, the more rage you can spent on heroic strike. Spamming heroic strike while not being able to hold the standard rotation is not an option.

]]> By: Oostin http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1994 Oostin Sat, 10 May 2008 08:45:28 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1994 So I read through the specs, and realized, I'm none of these 4 specs and my guild just hit 4/5 in SSC. I can't decide if that's okay or not, I'm actually 17/3/41 as of a week or so ago. Basically it's impale/prot, but so far I haven't been able to decide if it's actually greater threat gen than going with Shield Mastery for the larger SS's, it is definately more fun though seeing those slightly bigger numbers on all crits though. But it's probably just an offspec I dreamed up that's not really that good, I just haven't been able to put enough raid time into it yet to tell for sure. So I read through the specs, and realized, I’m none of these 4 specs and my guild just hit 4/5 in SSC. I can’t decide if that’s okay or not, I’m actually 17/3/41 as of a week or so ago. Basically it’s impale/prot, but so far I haven’t been able to decide if it’s actually greater threat gen than going with Shield Mastery for the larger SS’s, it is definately more fun though seeing those slightly bigger numbers on all crits though. But it’s probably just an offspec I dreamed up that’s not really that good, I just haven’t been able to put enough raid time into it yet to tell for sure.

]]> By: juniorkiller http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1988 juniorkiller Fri, 09 May 2008 16:47:18 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1988 Thanks Vene. As RSRYchro said, my guild run HJ and BT too (SSC = farming statu or when we have time) Any chance for a BT/Hyjal guide (with resist gear when it's necessary)? btw, sorry for my English, i'm a French native speakers. Thanks Vene.

As RSRYchro said, my guild run HJ and BT too (SSC = farming statu or when we have time)

Any chance for a BT/Hyjal guide (with resist gear when it’s necessary)?

btw, sorry for my English, i’m a French native speakers.

]]> By: Lorso http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1985 Lorso Fri, 09 May 2008 12:59:12 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1985 nice thx - couldn't imagine that hit for over 10K DMG had a AP of 350 Im reading up on the theory and getting a DPs warrior to take it. also looking into with the Locks and using CoR nice thx -
couldn’t imagine that hit for over 10K DMG had a AP of 350
Im reading up on the theory and getting a DPs warrior to
take it.

also looking into with the Locks and using CoR

]]> By: marklar http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1981 marklar Thu, 08 May 2008 21:32:58 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1981 lots of questions about imp. DS, but i thought it was simple: 2/5 takes boss AP to zero 5/5 takes boss AP to zero with CoR is this wrong? lots of questions about imp. DS, but i thought it was simple:
2/5 takes boss AP to zero
5/5 takes boss AP to zero with CoR

is this wrong?

]]> By: Rochelle http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1975 Rochelle Thu, 08 May 2008 05:34:15 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1975 I feel your pain Kavtor. I was tanking the dragon when we hit the enrage, popped shield wall and then one of the other tanks was rotating through and taunted off me. "Dude, I just used shield wall, I am taunting it back to make use of it!" ... taunt resisted. I feel your pain Kavtor. I was tanking the dragon when we hit the enrage, popped shield wall and then one of the other tanks was rotating through and taunted off me. “Dude, I just used shield wall, I am taunting it back to make use of it!”

… taunt resisted.

]]> By: Kavtor http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1974 Kavtor Thu, 08 May 2008 04:26:26 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1974 So, completely off target. But I was so excited about having Imp. Shield wall actually be useful for Kalecgos enrage. I was in demon phase, clicked shield wall... then got DI'd. Took my 5 seconds of cursing to figure out what happened and click it off. Shield wall wasted lol. Thank goodness the NPC was there to tank. So, completely off target. But I was so excited about having Imp. Shield wall actually be useful for Kalecgos enrage. I was in demon phase, clicked shield wall… then got DI’d. Took my 5 seconds of cursing to figure out what happened and click it off. Shield wall wasted lol. Thank goodness the NPC was there to tank.

]]> By: Talisman http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1972 Talisman Thu, 08 May 2008 03:22:51 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/05/06/how-to-spec-for-every-fight-in-ssc/#comment-1972 Hmm, that's a good point about Shield Wall I never thought of it that way. Not only can it literally be a killer as you said, but it makes no sense that the other defensive shield abilities, Shield Block and Spell Reflect are off GCD and it's not. Hmm... I just looked up the 4 raiding Wars we have in the guild (2 prot/2 fury). None of them have imp demo shout. Go us! I'm tempted to say something but my warrior is only an alt and there's no way they'd listen to a dumb huntard about tanking. I've tried. They still laugh at the idea of using Executioner on a tanking weapon and one of them thinks SBV is the only threat stat worth having. *sigh* Anyway... [/whinge] Hmm, that’s a good point about Shield Wall I never thought of it that way. Not only can it literally be a killer as you said, but it makes no sense that the other defensive shield abilities, Shield Block and Spell Reflect are off GCD and it’s not. Hmm…

I just looked up the 4 raiding Wars we have in the guild (2 prot/2 fury). None of them have imp demo shout. Go us!

I’m tempted to say something but my warrior is only an alt and there’s no way they’d listen to a dumb huntard about tanking. I’ve tried. They still laugh at the idea of using Executioner on a tanking weapon and one of them thinks SBV is the only threat stat worth having. *sigh* Anyway… [/whinge]

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