Comments on: Simplicity: Tanking Hyjal Waves with a Paladin http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/ A guide to tanking as a warrior in world of warcraft Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:14:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Thalassea http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3041 Thalassea Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:26:47 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3041 Little Tip for non-Paladins: Make sure all the mobs you have aggroed are also standing in the Paladins Consecration. Especially Spiders are kind of tiresome there, they often aggro our Single-Target tanks, keep doing their ranged attack and after the first round of AoE run for a DD. So just park everything into consecration. Little Tip for non-Paladins: Make sure all the mobs you have aggroed are also standing in the Paladins Consecration. Especially Spiders are kind of tiresome there, they often aggro our Single-Target tanks, keep doing their ranged attack and after the first round of AoE run for a DD. So just park everything into consecration.

]]> By: Sanelora http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3020 Sanelora Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:41:30 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3020 One thing to note with TC and Cleave (WW too but we arent a DPS community) is that the mobs that it hits is actually based on CVar distance (i assume it means Camera VARiable and it works off your position and the camera position) you can rotate your camera to be closer to some mobs and they will be the ones being hit with the move. For cleave, it is essentially the same thing but only effective in a forward cone shape. you can keep TC up on every mob in all the packs that should be pally tanked (80% of them) withouth moving essentially One thing to note with TC and Cleave (WW too but we arent a DPS community) is that the mobs that it hits is actually based on CVar distance (i assume it means Camera VARiable and it works off your position and the camera position)

you can rotate your camera to be closer to some mobs and they will be the ones being hit with the move. For cleave, it is essentially the same thing but only effective in a forward cone shape. you can keep TC up on every mob in all the packs that should be pally tanked (80% of them) withouth moving essentially

]]> By: 2ndNin http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3000 2ndNin Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:09:22 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-3000 Wave 6 we set the warrior up front for Spell Reflect, then sheep, thats my wave off :P Other than that I tend to get to tank everything that appears, sometimes the warriors or druids pick up aboms, sometimes I am left with 6, basically barring knock down 6 aboms + everything else I can is a good mana regen rate, during knock down you need fast heals (which should really be big heals that land at the right time :P). Wave 6 we set the warrior up front for Spell Reflect, then sheep, thats my wave off :P

Other than that I tend to get to tank everything that appears, sometimes the warriors or druids pick up aboms, sometimes I am left with 6, basically barring knock down 6 aboms + everything else I can is a good mana regen rate, during knock down you need fast heals (which should really be big heals that land at the right time :P).

]]> By: Torquemada http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2998 Torquemada Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:21:28 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2998 I'm the main Prot Pally for my guild. The way we handle wave 6 of Az trash is that I run out with what SR gear Ido have, drop a Consecrate, and Bubble as they start casting. I run back, drop bubble, still have aggro, and we AOE them down with mages decursing the melee. Good times. I’m the main Prot Pally for my guild.

The way we handle wave 6 of Az trash is that I run out with what SR gear Ido have, drop a Consecrate, and Bubble as they start casting. I run back, drop bubble, still have aggro, and we AOE them down with mages decursing the melee. Good times.

]]> By: Drevin http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2996 Drevin Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:32:13 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2996 flame to a flame is it? seemingly odd.. either way, my word usage aside, I will note that a dps warrior in Tanking gear has effectively horrible threat generation, thereby with seed spam and the massive AOE coming from your dpsers, coupled with the great amount of threat a properly geared protection paladin will produce makes it rather unlikely that said combination would be able to hold threat in any manner whatsoever, there is on the other hand a valid arguement for a fury warrior or arms warrior to tank 1 mob (perhaps 2 dependant on type) while in their dps gear, provided that they are getting a good amount of heals (COH or Chain Heal ftw) Also in response to those that flamed my post, I would like you all to note I said nothing in direct response to how vene actually does his articles, I've found many of them to be relatively useful in the past, and my opinion of this STRATEGY is MY OPINION. Quot erat demonstrata; a valid arguement for me insulting the author cannot be made when I made no direct attacks against him, I merely find the dps warrior in tanking gear arguement to be flawed. flame to a flame is it? seemingly odd..

either way, my word usage aside, I will note that a dps warrior in Tanking gear has effectively horrible threat generation, thereby with seed spam and the massive AOE coming from your dpsers, coupled with the great amount of threat a properly geared protection paladin will produce makes it rather unlikely that said combination would be able to hold threat in any manner whatsoever,

there is on the other hand a valid arguement for a fury warrior or arms warrior to tank 1 mob (perhaps 2 dependant on type) while in their dps gear, provided that they are getting a good amount of heals (COH or Chain Heal ftw)

Also in response to those that flamed my post, I would like you all to note I said nothing in direct response to how vene actually does his articles, I’ve found many of them to be relatively useful in the past, and my opinion of this STRATEGY is MY OPINION. Quot erat demonstrata; a valid arguement for me insulting the author cannot be made when I made no direct attacks against him, I merely find the dps warrior in tanking gear arguement to be flawed.

]]> By: Neelum http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2995 Neelum Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:57:56 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2995 We did it for months with 2 Def-Warriors, a feral and 2 off-Warriors. It was hard, it was painful and it was sth. to brag about. With a Def-Paladin, its a cakewalk. More or less, "sit back and enjoy the show". We did it for months with 2 Def-Warriors, a feral and 2 off-Warriors.

It was hard, it was painful and it was sth. to brag about.

With a Def-Paladin, its a cakewalk.
More or less, “sit back and enjoy the show”.

]]> By: Ridlyblade http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2992 Ridlyblade Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:38:20 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2992 As a raiding Fury warrior, I can attest to being able to handle multiple mobs on the waves in my full DPS gear (unless all the necromancers happen to choose me as the target of all Shadowbolts...that hurts). We've actually gotten so used to me pulling like 3 mobs off the pally tank with WW and cleave spam that if i die to unfortunate circumstances the pally panics. Works well and I get to have fun, only to see later that seed spam > Ridly :( As a raiding Fury warrior, I can attest to being able to handle multiple mobs on the waves in my full DPS gear (unless all the necromancers happen to choose me as the target of all Shadowbolts…that hurts).

We’ve actually gotten so used to me pulling like 3 mobs off the pally tank with WW and cleave spam that if i die to unfortunate circumstances the pally panics.

Works well and I get to have fun, only to see later that seed spam > Ridly :(

]]> By: Dezdemone http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2991 Dezdemone Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:43:59 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2991 Good post Vene, as always. I am glad you posted it as I was beginning to feel a bit guilty for not tanking 5 things on every round. Actually it's very relieving to see that I am already doing exactly what you recommend. Good post Vene, as always. I am glad you posted it as I was beginning to feel a bit guilty for not tanking 5 things on every round. Actually it’s very relieving to see that I am already doing exactly what you recommend.

]]> By: Hao http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2989 Hao Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:37:33 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2989 we were able to (a month or 2 ago) scrounge up a server group for our first (and only) venture into MH. We had 1 prot pally, though not as well geared could still hold the mobs and we were told to peel off "as many as you can". We had 4 warrior tanks (including myself) so it shouldn't have been a problem. At first, i tried to peel 4 since the first thought was that TC can only hit 4 and cleave can only hit 2. But after mobs were stolen away from aoeing dpsers, i decided to take 3 at a time. I was still able to keep up rage and have the mobs i took stick to me. It was also easier to micro-manage the mobs (ie clicking and applying sunders). We got to Rage, but he pwned us hard since nobody seemed to notice the Death and Decay that he did underneath them.. Since that was my first time in there, it was actually fun. Unfortunately, nobody but the top guilds (all 2 of them on horde side) are in MH/BT level raids in my sever. So that might have been the last time i get to experience that instance. Great blog post vene as always. we were able to (a month or 2 ago) scrounge up a server group for our first (and only) venture into MH. We had 1 prot pally, though not as well geared could still hold the mobs and we were told to peel off “as many as you can”. We had 4 warrior tanks (including myself) so it shouldn’t have been a problem. At first, i tried to peel 4 since the first thought was that TC can only hit 4 and cleave can only hit 2. But after mobs were stolen away from aoeing dpsers, i decided to take 3 at a time. I was still able to keep up rage and have the mobs i took stick to me. It was also easier to micro-manage the mobs (ie clicking and applying sunders). We got to Rage, but he pwned us hard since nobody seemed to notice the Death and Decay that he did underneath them..

Since that was my first time in there, it was actually fun. Unfortunately, nobody but the top guilds (all 2 of them on horde side) are in MH/BT level raids in my sever. So that might have been the last time i get to experience that instance. Great blog post vene as always.

]]> By: Goodmann http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2988 Goodmann Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:48:26 +0000 http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/07/05/simplicity-tanking-hyjal-waves-with-a-paladin/#comment-2988 I couldn't refrain from adding to this since i seriously hate ppl flaming other ppls work which is in majority very good. A post i read on tankspot was about a OT warrior in DPS in OT/DPS gear managing 1k DPS with out to much hard work, so saying venes plan on using a Arms warrior in tank outfit seems to me a very solid plan and not gonna hurt the over all DPS to much. So to shut up now BIG up vene luv ur stuff! Keep it up! Drevin use more sense on ur next replie, u can get ur point across with out being rude don't help it at all I couldn’t refrain from adding to this since i seriously hate ppl flaming other ppls work which is in majority very good.

A post i read on tankspot was about a OT warrior in DPS in OT/DPS gear managing 1k DPS with out to much hard work, so saying venes plan on using a Arms warrior in tank outfit seems to me a very solid plan and not gonna hurt the over all DPS to much.

So to shut up now BIG up vene luv ur stuff! Keep it up!

Drevin use more sense on ur next replie, u can get ur point across with out being rude don’t help it at all

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