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Now unless you’ve been under a rock the last while, you’ve no doubt noticed that Shield Wall went from having a 30 minute cooldown to having a 5 minute cooldown along with Retaliation and Recklessness. What you may not know is that whereas in the past these all shared the same cooldown making it so you’d never use Retaliation and Recklessness, now they don’t and as a result, you should be using them.
Retaliation
The safer of the two, once you’ve loaded up the boss with 5 Sunders this ability can give you a nice burst of damage. A word of caution though, the majority of bosses when parrying one of your attacks will have their own attack sped up. The result is you could be creating a lot of potential burst damage on yourself by using this if your Expertise Skill is low. Ultimately though for farming, there’s really no reason not to use it all the time.
Retaliation Macro
#show Retaliation
/cast [stance:1] Retaliation; Battle Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
Recklessness
Despite being far, far more dangerous to use than Retaliation, Recklessness still has a place outside guaranteeing you get to test a huge Shield Slam crit on a critter. 3 guaranteed crits is a ton of damage and is especially useful if you’re currently keeping the mob stun locked. In order to aid in making Recklessness safer to use, I like to use Shield Block with it as well.
Recklessness Macro
#show Recklessness
/cast Shield Block
/cast [stance:3] Recklessness; Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
I have to admit though, Shield Block hasn’t been added purely for security, it’s also there because I want the Shield Slam that I’ll use to Crit for as much as possible. Just as importantly as well, Damaging Shield will actually Crit every single time when Recklessness is active and not even consume a charge.
Identify and Execute
Set up both of the above macros and take the time to Identify when you can Execute them in a fight. It’s not always going to make sense to use both or even one of these macros every fight, but it will in a lot of fights and there’s no denying the DPS edge they’ll provide. Ultimately, use them early, use them often so you can use them the maximum number of times.
November 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I’ve used the recklessness macro already and have had great sucess with it, I will start using the Retaliation one as soon as I get my warrior moving again =D
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November 5th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I had no idea that Blizzard removed the shared cooldown of these abilities! Thats great to know. I’ll definitely put these macros to the test. Thanks!!
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November 5th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I don’t use a lot of macro’s, but I’ll have to give those a try once I tank things again!
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November 5th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I… totally didn’t realize they’re no longer on the same CD. I thought it was just 5m across the board instead of 30.
Why did I have to find this out AFTER they nerfed double-trinketing >_>
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November 6th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Pretty hot macros, nice to have a few more we can actually use effectively rather than just for spamming Vent info
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November 6th, 2008 at 2:56 am
One problem today vs a few beta’s ago is that they share a certain cool-down, i.e. you can’t use recklessness and shield-wall at the same time anymore. A bit sad but not the end of the world.
A macro I use now is:
# show Revenge
/cast Revenge
/cast Heroic Strike
Since we get a free HS after Revenge this works 9/10 times as long you don’t spam the macro.
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Onlyhuman reply on November 6, 2008 6:12 am:
http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/10/17/level-70-glyphs-making-bad-macros-good/
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Flesichmann reply on November 7, 2008 7:49 am:
Yes, yes that works 9/10. How’s it relate to our 5min CD’s again?
Off-topic: Superior Macro:
#showtootlip
/cast [button:2] heroic strike; revenge
/cast heroic strike
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Veneretio reply on November 7, 2008 8:00 am:
People go off topic on occasion. I accept this because what they say is still meaningful discussion. Trolling them is unnecessary.
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November 6th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Have you actually tested those macros in game? I was under the impression that, unless you have 2 skills, one of which if off the GCD, a “stack” of cast calls won’t work–it will just try to execute the first (i.e. top) one every time you press it. Looks like the retaliation macro will maybe work, given this, but it looks to me like the recklessness macro will just try to cast shield block every time.
Oh, and here’s a revenge/HS macro that works 10/10 times, in case you’re interested:
#showtooltip Revenge
/castsequence reset=2 Revenge, !Heroic Strike
Just tap the key twice (or slam it a bunch of times, that’s what the ‘!’ is for…) to hit revenge then queue up a HS. The revenge has to hit first on this macro, so there’s no possibility of HS queuing first and you having to actually use rage on it.
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Meatgazer reply on November 6, 2008 6:52 am:
At first I was concerned about haivng the HS without the Glyph of Revenge triggering, but rage isn’t an issue, so the cast sequence is unnecessary.
That and I’m currently arms tanking (Revenge Spam FTW). I would miss revenges if I used a 2 second cast sequence, and I don’t know if my 3 button could take 120 presses a second for very long.
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Meatgazer reply on November 6, 2008 6:56 am:
That should be presses a minute.
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Matt reply on November 6, 2008 7:00 am:
120 presses/second?! You’ve got a fast trigger finger!
Sounds like your macro works best for your situation, then–just wanted to offer another option.
Meatgazer reply on November 6, 2008 7:35 am:
That macro may prove better in low rage situations, since casting both can cause the HS to go off before the Glyph procs. But I think that macro was also mentioned in the other post.
http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/10/17/level-70-glyphs-making-bad-macros-good/
Veneretio reply on November 6, 2008 7:09 am:
Yup, I test every macro I put on here in game.
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Matt reply on November 6, 2008 7:37 am:
Very cool–thanks. Though I have to admit I’m a bit puzzled as to why those work. I’ll have to play around with it tonight.
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admin reply on November 6, 2008 10:06 am:
Oh, I should have noted too. Shield Block is not on the Global Cooldown
That being said… the way you use these macros is definitely by just mashing the button over and over. The idea behind it is it’s a lot easier than having to switch stances, hit the button, then switch back. This does it all in one button that you can mash.
It’s based on the old fear escape macros everyone used in the past.
Psy reply on November 6, 2008 1:35 pm:
Let’s take a look at statement execution in the recklessness one:
/cast Shield Block
/cast [stance:3] Recklessness; Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
In Defensive Stance, Shield Block is cast, which is off the GCD. Since you are in stance 2, not 3, recklessness is not attempted. Berserker Stance is cast instead. Stance changes are on their own separate cooldown, so we’re still not affected by the standard GCD. Since the Stance CD has been used, it attempts Defensive Stance and fails.
On the second click, it attempts Shield Block and fails, because it is on cooldown. You are in stance 3, so it casts Recklessness instead of moving to stance 3, and finally it attempts to move back to defensive stance.
If you clicked it very quickly, then it would pretty much immediately go Shield Block->Berserker->Recklessness, then when the stance swap CD finished it will go back to defensive.
Any questions? ^.^
Matt reply on November 6, 2008 1:53 pm:
Can’t reply below, but thanks Psy. What I didn’t realize is that stance changes are on a cooldown separate from the GCD. It makes perfect sense given that additional info!
November 6th, 2008 at 7:36 am
I’ll have to check those out. I tried Recklessness on the PTR back then, and the damage was impressive. The Retaliation macro could be incredibly useful. Thanks!
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November 6th, 2008 at 7:40 am
I’ve been using this since 3.0. Recklessness is fun, but retaliation is flat out awesome to behold when multimob tanking.
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November 6th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Just tested this out today on AOE pulls in Netherwing. Retaliation was very useful mobs went down much faster. Recklessness popped with a block trinket lead to some huge shield slams, manages to get 2 shield slams in before Reck wore off. Reck is great for pvp in my opinion.
thanks for the reminder about these Vene
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November 6th, 2008 at 8:19 am
hrm didn’t realize the cd’s weren’t shared any more–thanks for the tip! I’ll add these macros in tonight.
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November 6th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Ironically….I made those macros two days after the 3.0 patch….R U copying me Vene? lol
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admin reply on November 6, 2008 10:02 am:
Haha, well considering I made them the day the patch came out…
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Jumbobut reply on November 6, 2008 5:45 pm:
well I thought about making them that day. but lazyness/inspecting other new features took a hold of me.
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Flesichmann reply on November 7, 2008 7:50 am:
Sure…
November 6th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I thought recklessness required you to take damage. Did they change that? IIRC, blocking the full amount and parrying/dodging did not cause a retaliation.
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Signu reply on November 6, 2008 1:53 pm:
Recklessness = Retaliation
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Mazzy reply on November 7, 2008 3:13 am:
Tried the Retaliation macro on top of BT.
And yes Retaliation is useless if the mob can’t hit you.
ps. I had to remove the space in: # show Retaliation and
# show Recklessness in the macro.
#show Recklessness = will show cool down.
# show Recklessness = will show Shield Block cool down as it is first in the macro.
With red ? as icon if it matters.
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admin reply on November 7, 2008 7:26 am:
ty, updated article with no space for #show.
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November 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am
To maximize the effect of Retaliation while tanking, you could also incoporate a command to change weapons to a slower weapon that does more damage per swing, eh? Of course, the trick would be remembering to switch back to your normal tanking weapon after you were done.
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November 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This will be a lot of fun to try out! Good stuff.
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November 10th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Pro Tip:
Don’t use Recklessness while tanking Azgalor. Doesn’t end pretty at all. Even after all the melee damage nerfs to bosses…that guy still hits warriors like a truck (all we had that day in MH was me as Prot and a Prot pally so i got stuck with bosses)
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Psy reply on November 11, 2008 7:30 pm:
Recklessness generally isn’t the best idea on boss fights >_>
However, since the damage boost goes away after you use three abilities, you can get rid of it in 1.5s with a Special-HS-Special combo, i.e. Shield Slam, Heroic Strike, Revenge.
But anyway, especially on bosses with silence… >_>
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November 11th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Wow how did I miss that they don’t share a CD anymore??
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November 18th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Just tried this last night and it worked perfectly. Retaliation on trash mobs in Nexus (do we ever need to use cc again I wonder?) and Recklessness whenever it’s ready.
Not gonna stay on that 4th spot in dmg meter any more
*$
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November 21st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Can we get someone to double check this? I just tried retaliation while i was grinding and when i went back into defensive stance my charges stopped going down. (As of Nov. 20)
I have a feeling retaliation stops working when you are in defensive stance.
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January 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
thx for the macro vene
btw could u show u armory link with some tank gear, iwanna check ya ;P
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Veneretio reply on January 5, 2009 11:27 pm:
Haha, ya I logged out before Christmas holidays with my dps gear on. My gear is nothing special as we’ve been takin’ it very slow so far. I’m confident Blizz will release content slow enough that I’ll be more than prepared for Ulduar though
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February 19th, 2009 at 4:43 am
i’ve never really used macros either to help ‘enhance’ my tanking game, i only really use em for like switching my fishing pole or something. i did try out one macro though where all you had to was hover your mouse over a target and it’ll apply a sunder to them. it is a great little macro but i couldn’t get myself used to it. i’m always constantly tab targetting anyway, which any respectable tank should definitely get in the habit of doing. but if you are fairly new or just love macros, the mouse over sunder works a breeze. you can look it up on wowwiki i’m positive.
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March 4th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I tried this macro today;
#show Retaliation
/cast [stance:1] Retaliation; Battle Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
It worked great, but I have to hit the button twice, is this correct?
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Veneretio reply on March 4, 2009 11:22 am:
Yes, that’s correct, but it’s still more convenient!
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May 8th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Just discovered this site thanks to the directtion of a guildy. Been using retal. A lot lately when openning on bosses, with the mindset more hits and dmg always nice when trying to get threat. Gave the parry haste thing a thought, but so many healers over heal that 1st few seconds I haven’t been worried, excpet that time I hit Zerker stance instead of Defensive…guess a macro would have saved me that problem
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