Do we have Infinite Rage or No Rage?
When I logged onto the PTR just moments ago, I noticed a funny glitch in my UI.
I re-logged and it still looked weird. I re-logged again and still no rage bar. So, I went hunting on the PTR forums and immediately found a thread about this change by the crazy crab himself.
What does this mean?
Well you’d think such a change would have a massive effect on us as tanks and you’d be right… and you’d be wrong. On bosses, we’ve enjoyed nearly infinite rage for some time and as such, we shouldn’t notice any real difference. For trash, 5-mans and offtanking though this is an amazing buff and exactly what we’ve always needed to ensure that we can tank effectively as our gear improves or if we just aren’t getting hit at all.
But, Druids got to keep there Rage!
It’s true, but in a sense so did we. We’ve just got an endless supply of it now. Even from a flavour standpoint it kinda makes sense because you’d assume after 80 levels that we’d finally have learned to stay in a state of constant rage. What’s really exciting too is that there are a lot of boring rage efficiency talents like Improved Heroic Strike, Puncture and Focused Rage that we can expect to be replaced with new, fun talents.
So, folks what do you think of the change… is the glass half-full or half-empty?
March 31st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
lmao if no one else gets this wow
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March 31st, 2009 at 11:03 pm
To bad this was posted on what is technically April 1st. Their April Fool’s ideas are always so much better than the real ones.
Imagine rage-less tanking…..
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March 31st, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Funny thing, Ven. When I was on the PTR earlier today, I noticed my mana bar had disappeared also. I thought it was a bug myself. But I realized I could still cast my spells! I guess Blizzard finally realized that since mana is a non factor for healers right now at this point in the game, there is no point in having a mana bar at all for casting spells.
/high five!
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March 31st, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I have to say, as a healer, this is a fantastic change. More, this should allow my tanks to get all the aggro anyone can want from tanking every fight like it is a boss fight! I’ll tell you, running with under-geared tanks in heroics look to be a lot less painful, with the threat generation they need finally there.
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March 31st, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Pfft! Upgrades for Thunderfury was more believable.
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March 31st, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Is this one really true?
Just can’t believe it. That would be an incredible change and make our playstyle much smoother, because it is much easier to plan the use of certain abilities.
I don’t hate anything more than needing to use a certain ability, having its CD ready and failing in that situation because of having no rage. Be it because of having avoidance-”luck” in advance or simple having blown a little too much because of DDs closing up in omen.
So to me, the glass seems half-FULL
We’ll have to see how this change works out, when its on live / tested on PTR, but in a first glance I can’t see any disadvantages.
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delta38 reply on April 1, 2009 12:03 am:
Oh damn!
Laughing so much about myself right now.
Just realized its 1st of april today. Too much work atm
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hbombs reply on April 1, 2009 6:25 am:
ROFL owned
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Mortenzen reply on April 1, 2009 9:43 pm:
I laughed so much when reading your reply.. You really made my day
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:08 am
I’m fairly sure the glass is half full, someone else must haver taken a big swig of April Fool’s juice from it.
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:13 am
HAHA! At first I was like “mmk” but then I smelt it!
April Fools!!!! =]
yay im the 1st
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Galabriel reply on April 1, 2009 1:41 pm:
haha damn! it seems I was pretty off from being “the first” to notice
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:13 am
*giggle*
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:17 am
hmm, April?
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:19 am
I’d say you posted this about an hour too early
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Veneretio reply on April 1, 2009 6:19 am:
Well technically it was midnight my time when I did it
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:24 am
So what’s today’s date? April first eh?
Nice one!
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:27 am
you know what day is today buddy?
or at least i hope its related to the day it would be really odd otherwise
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:27 am
happy 1st of april!
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:31 am
*Looks at the date*
I’d like to believe this though, since it’s actually not too bad an idea.
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:31 am
Anyone else that checked the date on that post?
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:32 am
And what about PvP? Looks like a major buff here.
Is it even possible?
Awaiting nerf, some kind of extended CD’s on skills or something like that…
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:32 am
April Fools!
..ya?..
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:36 am
This is….interesting. No longer will we suffer (not that its really a problem now) from the inability to use our abilities. Like you said Vene, this will open up a whole slew of new talents for us to play with.
Not only will it improve threat gen and ability usage while tanking, just think of the benefit this is to prot dps. It should provide for some interesting numbers here and also in pvp.
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:36 am
Nice one for 1st April, I guess
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April 1st, 2009 at 12:39 am
omg this is epic. hard to believe though. im SO gonna roll in pvp if thats true.
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Steele reply on April 1, 2009 12:45 am:
ok .. i saw the date now >.
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:01 am
not this year pal
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:04 am
haha, good one. Too bad we still remember last years Thunderfury buff
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:10 am
You have noticed the date on GC:s comment,yes?
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:15 am
I’m not sure… but perhaps this is an elaborate April Fools joke? I don’t think this would go through without some major reworking of all aspects of the class.
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Burahaka reply on April 1, 2009 1:26 am:
Or perhaps it’s you, Vene, who’s trying to trick us. A quick perusal of the forums and mmo-champion’s blue tracker shows nothing from GC. What is there is a Q & A with a dev saying warriors are OP with infinite rage.
So which is it Vene? Your public demands to know!
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:36 am
Happy April Fools’ Day to you too!
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:43 am
Nice April’s fool everyone !
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:44 am
99.9% sure this is a joke
I’ll give you a hint, look at the posts date..
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:49 am
Now that’s a very creative change!
Interesting publish date/time on GC’s post…
-Thrash
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:52 am
April’s fool ?
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:54 am
No way sirree, not after last year when I was crushed!
Shenanigans have been called!
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:57 am
Long time reader but first post
I did fall for it but i saw the date on the image
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:06 am
April’s fool!
However nice a change it would be, it’s too unbalanced.
Think about arms warrs proccing Sudden Death with infinite rage.
Or just when you get to the last 20ish percentages of a boss and spam executes.
It’s reasonable for tanking, but hugely unbalanced for DPS warrs.
I do still want that Bard Class to come now I think of it
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:09 am
Then again.. . Its “that” day today…
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:14 am
GC’s post is dated 1 second into April 1st, so it MAY be an April Fool, but if the change is for real, that would be quite… interesting.
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:18 am
I am not sure if I am happy with this. Sure, it will take away an annoyance from tanking, but what will it do to game balance. In my experience, this kind of major buffs tend to have unwanted side effects. I dont know what they will be, but here is what I think will happen.
By removing the problems of rage generation, figths will speed up and agro issues are reduced. Blizz will then have to find something else to add complication and length to fights. Lets say they will introduce frequent agro resets. Then this new addition will become the next problem in the game.
My main is priest, and in my opinion priests are in a problem solution cycle at the moment. First we got fire and forget Circle of Healing, then it was overused so it needed a nerf, making less geared priest struggle on group heal. So in 3.1 we get a buff to prayer of healing, which i think will make it overpowered. None of this would have been needed, if CoH would never have been made self targetting.
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:26 am
You are aware this is just an April’s fool joke, right?
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Cingy reply on April 1, 2009 7:37 am:
Fell for it. I admit
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:27 am
Happy april’s fool day?
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:31 am
A superb change. Although handling rage required some skill ( managing HS etc ) it’s for the best of class balance.
It’s always annoying to see the Tankadin go all out, while you yourself as a warrior are waiting for rage.
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Lyco reply on April 1, 2009 2:33 am:
APRIL FOOLS LAL!
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:36 am
Not sure about the half-full or half-empty glass, but I’m half-certain my leg is being fully pulled. Or something.
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:38 am
woot ! that a great change for all warriors ! do you have some news of template ? What is the futur for talent which reduce the cost of rage ?
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:42 am
LOL, I
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:44 am
april 1st joke?
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:51 am
April Fools ;D
but if it were true think of what it would do to pvp
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:52 am
Yea, it’ll be a nice change. But again - it will be even harder to notice good tank in a flood of mediocre ones.
Waiting for all comments to be approved: April’s Fool!
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:55 am
I was thrilled about this until I realized it’s the 1st of April
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Steele reply on April 1, 2009 6:35 am:
yeah i was jumping around in my office untill it suddenly strook me: wtf are furor warris gonna do with endless rage.. cant be true -> got me thinking -> realised it was a joke -> was REALLY REALLY feeling down. damn you! really nice job though.
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:56 am
This is more like an April’s fool joke. It’s just too good to be true.
Blizzard does that all the time.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:24 am
I’m calling April Fools.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:51 am
Not to spoil anything, but looks much like an april’s fool
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:52 am
Looking at GC post time, I can only assume this is an April Fools joke. But in the remote possibility that this is gonna be for real…. WOOT! no more DK’s using their AOE tanking to pull targets off me and rage starving me….LOL
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:53 am
good joke m8
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:56 am
My biggest question I guess is are they adding any cooldowns to balance this out? I mean, it seems like this doesn’t really solve HS spam, and it makes Cleave spam that much better in trash if not. Still, pretty interesting change. I’m very curious about how it’s going to work out.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:56 am
lol, April Fools? The SS link gave it away.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:59 am
This has been a kick-ass change for PVP! I’ve been executing people for huge numbers thanks to this change!
Way to go Blizzard!
- Eddie
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:05 am
april fools?
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:18 am
Oh, this comes to me as a HUGE change. Almost the one thing that I am still concerned about is pickin up aggro/rage in the beginning of the fights. Especially with my avoidance gear, I can be “missed” for a couple of seconds = lack of rage.
And I haven’t even started to think about new talents build. Most do so immediately.
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:28 am
Ahh Veneratio!!
funny I heard they were going to give us Warriors a new talent called turtle shell - allows us to crawl into a shell and hide while boss hammers the shell.. sounds pretty uber
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:33 am
Nice one
Got me for a minute 
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:38 am
…. Damn.I just checked the date. April 1. I was so excited for ten seconds
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:45 am
april fool?
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April 1st, 2009 at 4:49 am
Well played sir. You had me until the link to the photoshopped forum page. And incidentally, you can come clean the coffee off my monitor when you have a spare moment :p
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:03 am
Uhmmm are you sure this just isn’t one of Blizz’s infamous April Fool’s jokes?
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:05 am
Nice 1st April Post
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:08 am
I have to say, it makes me nervous. Every class has some kind of “power” (mana, energy, runes) they have to manage in order to use special abilities. Granted, any experienced warrior don’t have much of an issue managing their rage, but still. I’m nervous because I wonder what will be the counter-balance. I’m guessing that CDs will be changed somewhat to give us a new wrinkle.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:09 am
Maybe it was wishful thinking, but you -almost- got me this morning. Very well done. I understand you won’t publish this, just wanted to give kudos.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:09 am
1. April, obviously …
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:10 am
Hmm. Maybe this be april fool?
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:10 am
OMG we’re all doomed!
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:14 am
At first I tought “Oh, early april fools joke”, and even after reading the blue post and your post Im not sure if it is really true :p
I agree this can be both good and bad, in some cases you will not notice anny difference and in some it will make the fight alot easier. Easy is good right? Or wait, maybe easy can be plain boring?
I dont know what to think yet but Im leaning to the negative side :s
Isnt it part of the fun to struggle a bit? If I go oor several times during a fight it forces me out of my normal rotation, making me think a little bit extra =)
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:15 am
April fools joke anyone ??
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:22 am
April Fools anyone? I’m still skeptical - though I would LOVE it. Were there other drastic class changes today?
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:37 am
I heard they eliminated mana from the mage/Warlock classes as well… some sweeping changes this patch.
Off to cling-wrap the toilet seat before my roomie wakes up.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:40 am
I’ve been having a blast with this new change. Taking out all the rage-related talents in my trees also opened up a lot of different specs. I also found myself staying in battle stance through entire heroics just spamming Execute. Even without the aggro modifier, doing twice the damage as all the other classes on a single target makes things easy AND fun.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:43 am
April fools!
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:46 am
April Fool’s Day rolls around again.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:49 am
Sneaky, your posting date is one day too early.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:55 am
Happy 1st of April, everyone.
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April 1st, 2009 at 5:57 am
What do I think? I think “hah hah”
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:02 am
This change is perfect for the time of the year it is… This big of change could only happen on one day. Its really a FIRST for warriors and we would be FOOLS if we didn’t realize how much of a buff it would be.
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:05 am
…posted on 4/1/09….
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:06 am
o man
way to post this an hour to early !!
fail O.o
and yes i know you wont approve this comment so /wave hi vene
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:08 am
I lol’d.
nice one!
I, personally, think that the rage that will be generated from the ticked-off druids out there will provide more than enough rage to go around for the warriors
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:09 am
Its only cause druid can’t use calendars….they get to keep their rage
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:22 am
I think it will also see tanks putting more damage out on trash mobs, when they frequently are rage starved (at least I see that far too much). This will also help immensely for the prot-war off-tank. Nice DPS boost without having to pull aggro from the MT to gain rage. I think I’ll like it if it makes it to the live servers.
Another benefit - PVP. Hard to gain an upper hand if you’re ganked and don’t have that initial rage boost from charge.
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April 1st, 2009 at 6:35 am
I have to admit: you got me
I was really looking forward to screwing up trash pulls less often.
I had forgotten the date completely but the comments above reminded me.
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April 1st, 2009 at 7:09 am
haha, nicely done. I’ll admit you got me. Totally forgot what day it was
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April 1st, 2009 at 7:24 am
Wow. I fell for it.
Posted on my guild forum too lmao.
(Deleted it though…)
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April 1st, 2009 at 8:13 am
I heard the also took out all GCDs for warriors. Infinite shield slam FTW!!!!
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April 1st, 2009 at 8:18 am
Half full all the way, it is always annoying to have a DK take your aggro and suffer later on due to rage starvation… problem solved.
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April 1st, 2009 at 8:24 am
You made me do a dance around my office last year with the ‘Thunderfury upgrade’ - was ready for you this time around!
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Veneretio reply on April 1, 2009 8:39 am:
LOL Ya, last year’s was especially cruel so I decided to go with something a lot more far fetched this year.
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April 1st, 2009 at 11:00 am
wooo. No more Arena games that are effectively over before I’ve generated enough rage to be able to effect the outcome!
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April 1st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I don’t believe anything on April 1st.
I swear if one day someone come to me on April Fool with something like “your moms died” and it happened for real, I’ll just say “yeah, nice try” and continue what I was doing til April 2.
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April 1st, 2009 at 2:10 pm
hahahaha good one. Almost forgot it was 4-1-2009. hahaha
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April 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 am
Best. April1st. Joke. Ever! 5/5 xD
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April 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 am
Although this is an obvious April Fools joke it would go a long way to fix Warrior (tanking only) on trash pulls.
It’s kinda sad that Blizz joke about a change which would help make our class more competitive with the other tanks.
Maybe Improved Bloodrage could be moved deeper into the Prot tree and its effects increased?
As poster said above its disheartening to see Palas and DK’s go “balls to the wall” at the start of the pull while I get “not enough rage”, “need more rage” and in between pulls have to taunt critters to stay in combat to stop my rage decaying.
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Lord0 reply on April 2, 2009 4:33 am:
Oh aye and it would have cured the Warrior OT, no rage, issue
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Veneretio reply on April 2, 2009 7:21 am:
Keep in mind, I actually made up this whole thing. Blizzard is in no way responsible for this. I don’t even have access to the PTR. The image of my health with no rage is fake. The Ghostcrawler comment is fake. Everything was just made in Photoshop.
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April 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 am
Oh aye and in PVP you might get to do some dmg before getting pwned by *All*
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April 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 am
omg lol i didnt saw the date or the comments i told all my guild how great this was and now, an april fool joke, how low D:
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